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Do Anglican Dioceses in Britain have banners of arms or some other armorial
flag to go with their (mostly quite stylish) coats of arms??
António Martins-Tuválkin, 18 December 2005
From what I understand, for Anglican dioceses there exists a pattern, namely
the flag is white with a St George cross, and in the canton / upper hoist corner
the coat of arms of the diocese. This means possibly just the small coat of
arms, i.e. the shield. See the
Diocese of
Chichester site for an example.
Dirk Schönberger, 19 December 2005
In the main, that is right. However, at Diocesan Church House in North
Hinksey, Oxford, they fly a St. George's Cross flag defaced in the upper hoist
with the logo of the Diocese and not the shield from its arms.
This flag is not flown every day, rather on holy days and so on. As far as I
recall, the one used on the flag is black, rather than blue. Their coat of arms
can be viewed at
http://www.oxford.anglican.org/detail.php?id=1242 at the bottom of the page,
with a blazon.
Colin Dobson, 19 December 2005
The correct usage is for Anglican churches to fly the St George's Cross with the arms of their diocese in the canton. Many Anglican churches - perhaps depending on the diocese - fly an undefaced St George's Cross. (Here in Bristol diocese, and in the neighbouring diocese of Bath and Wells, I have only seen undefaced St. George's Crosses until a year or so ago, when St. Mary Redcliffe - the grandest parish church in Bristol - started flying a correctly defaced St George's Cross.
As far as I know, Anglican dioceses don't have banners of arms, but, this
being unregulated England, there may be exceptions. As the
Diocese of
Chichester site says, individual bishops may have arms and may use banners
of arms but these would not be the banner of the diocese. It is also debateable
whether the defaced St George's Crosses which should be flown (and sometimes are
flown) on individual churches could be called the flag of the diocese in a way
analogous to a sub-territorial flag (though the
Diocese of
Chichester site does use this term). I would be surprised if, for instance,
such a flag was flown at the relevant Bishop's palace. I would see them rather
as locally differenced flags of the Church of England as a whole.
André Coutanche, 20 December 2005
I have spoken to the College of Heralds regarding the question of banners of
the diocesan arms, and they say that the arms would have been granted to the
dean and chapter (of the cathedral), however, there is nothing in the law of
arms which prevents the present bishop from flying a banner of those arms from
his palace, or indeed, impaling them with his own personal arms and flying the
resulting banner should he so wish. As a matter of courtesy (if not of policy) I
would imagine that a bishop would run it past the dean and chapter first, but I
cannot imagine any circumstances (or grounds) for them to refuse permission or
even object (except those of expense)?
Christopher Southworth, 20 December 2005
I find the College's answer puzzling. The arms of a cathedral itself would be
granted to the dean and chapter, but I believe the arms of each diocese were
granted (actually confirmed in the case of most old dioceses) to the bishop of
the time and to his successors in office. Bishops of the Church of England are
corporations sole and, unless I'm mistaken, it is in the capacity of a
corporation sole that the bishop applies for and is granted arms. That should
mean that the incumbent bishop "owns" the arms of the diocese and could fly a
banner of them in his own right. The dean and chapter could fly a banner of the
cathedral's own arms, but not those of the diocese (unless, of course, the
bishop was actually present at the cathedral). That, at least, is the logic of
how I have understood English ecclesiastical heraldry. As I say, that's why the
College's answer is surprising.
Joe McMillan, 20 December 2005
located and resized by Colin Dobson, 22 December 2005
The Diocese of Bradford introduced a specific exception on 19 June 2004, as
follows:
www.bradford.anglican.org (scroll down to "John and Malcolm "raised the
flag""). The image of the flag can be found
here.
Earlier on the page, it is said: "And we were assured that, though the Earl
Marshall said in 1938 that the flag of St George is the one to fly on churches,
this was never made compulsory."
Colin Dobson, 22 December 2005
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 22 December 2005
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 22 December 2005
The arms of the Province of Canterbury are "Azure an archiepiscopal staff
Argent ensigned with a cross formy Or surmounted of a pallium Argent edged and
fringed Gold, charged with four crosses formy fitchy Sable".
James Dignan, 22 December 2005
The archbishops of Canterbury fly a banner of arms of their diocese, as shown
in the World Flags Database.
Dirk Schönberger, 23 December 2005
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image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 22 December 2005
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image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 22 December 2005
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The Anglican Diocese of Dunedin, New Zealand just flies the St. George's
cross unadorned, as far as I'm aware. I don't even know if it has official arms
- even its website simply uses a logo of a stylised cross (http://www.dn.anglican.org.nz/about_us/about_us.shtml).
James Dignan, 22 December 2005
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 8 January 2006
image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 20 December 2005
At Diocesan Church House in North Hinksey, Oxford, they fly a St. George's Cross flag defaced in the upper hoist
with the logo of the Diocese and not the shield from its arms.
This flag is not flown every day, rather on holy days and so on. As far as I
recall, the one used on the flag is black, rather than blue. Their coat of arms
can be viewed at
http://www.oxford.anglican.org/detail.php?id=1242 at the bottom of the page,
with a blazon.
Colin Dobson, 19 December 2005
Oxford is a unique case, in that Christ Church Cathedral is the only church
in the Church of England or the world, as the college web site states - which is
both a cathedral and a college chapel. The Dean of Christ Church is
simultaneously the head of Christ Church College, one of the largest in the
University of Oxford and the Dean of the Cathedral. There is a coat of arms for
the Cathedral:
http://www.chch.ox.ac.uk/modules/standard/viewpage.asp?id=479 and a separate
arms for the Diocese of Oxford
http://www.oxford.anglican.org/images/logos/arms.jpg, but note that it is
stated on the Diocese's web site that this is "not official".
There is no provision for flying a flag in the Cathedral buildings themselves,
rather there is a flagpole at the front of the college, facing on to St Aldates
Street, where there is ordinarily flown a banner of the college arms, which can
be seen on the college's home page here:
http://www.chch.ox.ac.uk but only on certain days connected with the college
or the university, such as when a graduation ceremony is held.
Colin Dobson, 21 December 2005
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![[Flag of Diocese of Rochester]](../images/g/gb_ce-ro.gif)
by Mike Oettle and António Martins-Tuválkin, 8 January 2006
The flag to be flown in the diocese of Rochester is the flag of St George with, in the canton, a shield of the arms: Argent on a saltire gules an escallop or.
Mike Oettle, 17 January 2002
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The diocese of York flies a banner of arms, shown at
World Flags Database.
Dirk Schönberger, 23 December 2005
There is a chart which purports to show all the diocesan arms at
http://whitelionsociety.org.uk/WLS_Dioces_of_England_arms.jpg. However, I
count only 43 arms on it, and according to several sites, including
Wikipedia and the
Church of England website there are
44 dioceses [not counting the diocese of Europe]. The actual chart is available
from the White Lion
Society,
an organization formed to support the College of Arms.
Ned Smith, 21 December 2005
