4:5
by Zeljko Heimer, 5 November 2001
Last modified: 2004-07-31 by dov gutterman
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HONVÉD means soldier this is patriotic word. The word
"katona" = soldier is neutral. The word
"honvéd" = soldier means "the soldier who save
our country". HON = homeland VÉD = save. The new Hungarian
Army in 1848 was the Magyar Honvédség. The name of the
Hungarian army: between 1867-1949 Magyar Honvédség, 1949-1989
Magyar Néphadsereg (Hungarian People's Army), 1989-now Magyar
Honvédség.
The Budapesti Honvéd was the football-club of the army
1949-1989. Now the name of the FC. is Kispest-Honvéd FC
Istvan Molnar, 25 November 2000
"VED" actually means to guard. So, the term more
correctly means "Home Guard".
Georges Kovari, 27 November 2000
Marco Pribilla told me that the text of the law of
year 2000 changes regulations regarding the naval ensign -
instead of the flamullets used along the edges in 1995 law the
2000 text has triangles. The military unit flags (i.e. what would
be called colors in US) are still prescribed to have flamullets,
though.
- The Law LXXXIII of 1995, article 8, alinea 2, designates
flamullets.
- Anex 2. of the HM (Ministry of Defence) regulation number
3/1996 where the naval ensigns are prescribed in details the
trangular border is mentioned (at least it is so in the French
translation I got from Pasca Vagnat.
- Law of 2000 has triangles also.
So, it may seem that the flamullets, even if they were according
to the law from 1995-2000, were not used, at least not after
1996, and law of 2000 only recongized the practice.
If that is so, then the naval ensigns with flamullets are
theoretical only, and those with trangles are ever used only.
Zeljko Heimer, 3 November 2001
Perhaps I expressed myself unclearly. Actually the triangles
were prescribed in the 1995 law for the naval ensign, and nothing
was changed about that in 2000. The 2000 law only concerned the
permanent use of the tricolour at buildings and institutions of
the state.
Marco Pribilla, 3 November 2001
I checked the laws and here is a free translation of the
relevant parts:
Sec. 76§ of the Hungarian constitution states: "The flag of
the Republic of Hungary consists of three equally wide horizontal
stripes red white and green". No mentioning of the use, nor
of any variations (e.g. for army and navy).
The 1995 law nr. LXXXIII fixes how and where to use the Hungarian
CoA and the flag. Paragraphs 5 through 8 concern especially the
flag. 7§ orders A TRICOLOUR FLAG IDENTICAL TO THE FLAG OF THE
REPUBLIC (no mentioning about ratio) to be used on sea and river
vessels, except for the military vessels.
Sec. 8§(1) prescribes the flag of the military units (on land)
to be white with a red-and-green FLAMULLET border. The CoA is
placed IN THE CENTER with an oak branch on its right and an olive
branch on its left.
According to 8§(2) the war ships of the Hungarian Army are to
hoist a white flag with a red-and-green SAW-TEETH
("ékek") border. The CoA with the oak and olive
branches is OFFSET TOWARDS THE HOIST SO THAT ITS VERTICAL AXIS
CORRESPONDS WITH THE AXIS THAT DIVIDES THE FLAG 1:2.
The XXXVIII law of 2000 is an amendment to the 1995 law. It does
not change the military and naval flags in any way. Basically it
only orders state institutions to keep the tricolour permanently
hoisted. This law took effect on August 20th, 2000.
Marco Pribilla, 4 November 2001
1)
4:5
by Zeljko Heimer, 5 November 2001
2) 
3:4
by Zeljko Heimer, 5 November 2001
3) 
31:40
by Zeljko Heimer, 5 November 2001
I recently received some material, thanks to Armand, relating
Hungarian military flags."Honved Zaszlo" means Army
Flag. As it would be seen from there, the hungarian army still
(or again) uses flags of similar pattern. The details of the
border certainly have been changed from time to time, and if I
understood the matters properly, even today they are not quite
uniform. The device in the middle has been even more drastically
changed through time and space.
variant (1) is used by larger ships, (2) by smaller and (3) by
commanding speed boats.
Adopted: 12 April 1996. Ratio: (1) 4:5 (80X100 cm.), (2) 3:4
(60X80 cm.), (3) 31:40 (31X40 cm.)
Zeljko Heimer, 15 March 1999
Concering the image at L'Album 2000 [pay00] (Fig 2. naval ensign):
According to my data the ensign is used (prescribed) in ratio
3:4, 4:5 and 31:40 (the last one is not mentioned). Also, the
leaves around the CoA is not (specifically) mentioned, though it
may be that it is implied when it is stated that the CoA is set
there. The shape of the corner pieces are not clearly described
in the source.
Zeljko Heimer, 5 January 2001
It was made according to a photo and also acording to the law
on military flags in Magyar.
Armand Noel du Payrat, 12 January 2001
According to Album 2000 [pay00]
- Naval Ensign. (---/--W 3:4, 31:40 and 4:5) - White flag with
CoA with olive and oak branches set along 1/3 and with red-green
flammulets along borders. As is known, this flag gets in three
sizes.
Zeljko Heimer, 2 November 2001
Concering the image at L'Album 2000 [pay00] (Fig 6. Seniority pennant):
There is not mention of the leaves around the shield, and the
shape of corner peieces is unclear. Also, I don't remember seing
anything defining the "wolf-teeth" along the outer
edges not to be equilateral triangles.
Zeljko Heimer, 5 January 2001
The law states :"without tenants of branches.." ,
and the shape of corner peieces is unclear. the law states
:"half-corners, green".
Armand Noel du Payrat, 12 January 2001
by Zeljko Heimer, 2 November 2001
Adopted 12 April 1996. Ratio: 21:200 (21X200 cm.)
Zeljko Heimer, 24 March 1998
Concering the image at L'Album 2000 [pay00] (Fig. 8. War pennant): I
think (at least that's how I interpret it) that the tricolour is
not "diminishing" towards the fly, but that the stripes
are perpendiculat to hoist (so that the fly end is white only). I
may be wrong here, also. prescribed ratio for the pennant is
21:200.
Zeljko Heimer, 5 January 2001
According to Album 2000 [pay00]
- Masthead Pennant - Red-white-green triabgular long pennant,
prescribed in size as 21 cm x 200 cm.
Zeljko Heimer, 2 November 2001
by Zeljko Heimer, 3 November 2001
Adopted: 12-APR-1996. Ratio: 6:7 (120×140 cm)
Use: military units of level of a brigade, regiment, detached
bataillon (group), Military River Fleet and others.
Zeljko Heimer
Here is a photo of Hungarian
Military Unit Flag.
Istvan Molnar, 6 September 2001
reverse side
by Istvan Molnar, 21 October 2001
The symbol and the flag of the "Magyar Honvédség 5.
Bocskai István Gépesített Lövészdandár 1. Harckocsi
Zászlóalj" ("Hungarian Army 5th Bocskai István
Motorized Rifleman's Brigade 1st Tank Battalion"). The flag
was given by the Pro Patria Foundation of Debrecen City. One side
of the flag is blue on the center there is the CoA of Debrecen,
the other side is the military unit flag with the unit emblem.
Photos can be seen at here,
here
and here
(with the unit emblem). Bigger emblem can be seen here.
Istvan Molnar, 4 August 2001
