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The flags shown in the first section below appear to be related to the Party Sipâh-e-Sâhaba flag, although they are increasingly different from the flag reported by Michel Lupant on our page on the Party Sipâh-e-Sâhaba:
In a recent TV report about a demonstration in
Pakistan against US intervention in Afghanistan, I spotted a flag which I have
been unable to find in FOTW. It is somewhat reminiscent of that of Jammu and
Kashmir, but certainly different. It shows a green field with white crescent and
star pointing to the bottom fly, with a canton made of seven (perhaps only five)
stripes blue-white and the remaining half of the hoist (i.e., beneath the
canton) red. The star is somewhat elaborate. I am in doubt as to the proportions
of the flag, looking at the image I would think it was 1:2 rather than 2:3, but
I seem to recall the hoist defacements certainly looked like two square areas as
in my image,
Santiago Dotor, 19 September 2001
This flag has been reported
before as a flag used in Pakistani-occupied Kashmir, perhaps even the flag of
the Pakistani Kashmir. I'm not aware of any connection with the Taliban or Bin
Laden's group.
Jorge Candeias, 19 September 2001
I believe the contributor is
comparing this flag to that of the Azad Kashmir.
It is in fact quite different from the Azad Kashmir
flag.
Santiago Dotor, 20 September 2001
I've seen today this flag in the reports about
demonstrations in Peshawar. It appeared here and there in the middle of a sea of Jamiat al Islami
flags. I was paying close attention this time, and I came to a couple of
conclusions somewhat different to Santiago's. For one, I'm almost positive that
the stripes in the canton are white and black instead of blue and white. And
then, it seemed to me that the "star" is curved rather than angular, sort of
flower-like.
I do agree with Santiago's assertions about sizes and ratios. The red and black
and white areas at the hoist are positively square, leaving another,
larger, square at the hoist. The crescent, though, was placed as in the
Pakistani flag, pointing 45º up and toward the fly, and the whole
crescent+"flower" device seemed to me a lot larger than in Santiago's
image.
Jorge Candeias, 28 September 2001
I also saw those images with
several similar flags. I still have the impression that the stripes are dark
blue, but not so dark as to be mistaken with black. I also agree about the
orientation of the emblem, with respect to the recent TV images. However I am
very sure that the first one I saw days ago had the emblem pointing to lower
fly, as in my image. Most probably these flags do not have specifications, so
that different handed- and industry-made versions co-exist. I believe the key
elements to clear up would be the colour of the canton stripes and the
orientation of the central emblem.
Santiago Dotor, 1 October 2001
I've seen this flag often, but
never long and close enough to get a good look of the symbol. Until just now. I
just saw in one of our channels' late night news a flag being waved in front of
the camera and the symbol was very clear. And the conclusions are:
- The number of "points" is indeed 5. There's no doubt left about it;
- The "star" is not really a star, but quite flower-like instead;
- The shape of each point/petal is semicircular;
- The depressions are pointed
Of course, there's the possibility that this is simply a variation. But I'm
absolutely positive that in that specific flag these were the characteristics of
the symbol. It looked pretty professionally-made - no amateur stitching or
painting.
Jorge Candeias, 15 October 2001
by Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán
This flag seems to be a variant
of UFE 1 - it was seen on the TV news in Mexico. Black and white stripes over an
orange square, the rest is green.
Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán, 13 October 2001
by Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán
Another version lacks the
red-orange square.
Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán, 13 October 2001
This is probably a politically charged flag of Pakistani Islamists. It is a
nearly square version of the flag of Pakistan, with a golden/yellow fringe and
something written in yellow Arabic text below the crescent and star. The text is
in the normal letters we see in Arabic websites and newspapers: longer than
higher.
Jorge Candeias, 21 September 2001
This flag was seen accompanying the UFE 2 described above. It is a
"normal" flag of Pakistan, except that the crescent and star was slightly
shifted to the bottom, and a white text written above. The letters here were
very similar to the shahada as we see it in the Saudi and Taliban flags, so I
guess it was the shahada.
Jorge Candeias, 21 September 2001
One would need images to comment. Note also that Urdu and Farsi (and other local
languages) are also written in Arabic script, so the writing on the flags might
not be in the Arabic language.
Al Kirsch, 21 September 2001
I saw on Polish TG a flag hoisted during an anti-American demonstration in
Pakistan (most probably in Peshawar). This flag does not seem to be any of
Pakistani political movements' flags, nor it is the Taliban movement's flag, as
far as the outside world knows anything about Taliban regime. It's probable that
it's to connected to some political and religious movement involving Taliban and
Pakistani Moslems.
Bartek Wojciechowski, 22 September 2001
There is something written under the crescent. Fortunately, in a TV news
coverage this evening a slightly enlarged version of the flag appeared. I took a
TV screenshot of it and analyzed the content of the inscription. Please note it
has a rather low degree of accuracy, as:
- the shooting quality was poor
- transposing images via TV-MAC-PC gives shabby effects
- the flag appeared for mere 2.05 sec
- the flag was waving
- the flag (and letters) was actually inverted
- the flag appeared in the very corner of the TV screen
- I don't speak Urdu.
I have some knowledge of Persian (written in Arabic script as well) though and I
tried to put down the letters:
I don't understand the first word (words?), but the middle one and the last one
go "...Talib Pakistan". That's quite understandable, isn't it? I hope somebody
with good command of Urdu or Arabic, maybe will able to correct my version and
say what it means.
Bartek Wojciechowski, 26 September 2001
Yet another Pakistani UFE spotted on TV images of anti-American
demonstrations in that country. This one came in large numbers, so there's no
doubt about the design: black with a white disc centered. Proportions seemed to
be perhaps somewhat larger than 2:3, but since I'm not sure about that, I made
my image with standard proportions.
It seems that the colours of the various groups that support the Taliban are
basically black and white, but that the designs of their flags vary quite a bit
from group to group (or from demonstration to demonstration?)
Jorge Candeias, 23 September 2001
I saw several flags like this, in the TV images of the big anti-government &
anti-USA demonstration in Karachi (Pakistan). A plain black background with a
centered big white circle. It was mixed with the black & white striped flags
already commented. The protest was conducted by the religious movement Jamiat Ulama'a e Islam.
at prayer day. I don't know the exact meaning of this flag.
Santiago Tazon, 14 October 2001
Another Pakistani political UFE,
spotted on TV images yesterday.
This time the demonstration was pro-governmental (and therefore
pro-western). The flag was white with two narrow bars at the hoist, red and
green.
Jorge Candeias, 27 September 2001
This flag is very similar to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement flag, but with different dimensions.
by Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán
The most common flag during the demonstrations: blue, white and green with
the star, crescent and shahada.
Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán 13 October 2001
by Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán
Seen on the TV news in Mexico - this flag has green and white stripes; other
flags seen were black and white, that of Jamiat Ulama'a e Islam.
Juan Manuel Gabino Villascán 13 October 2001
In a news report about the banning of Islamist parties and movements in
Pakistan, I saw today a flag I couldn't identify. It was shot from afar and from
a bad perspective, being hoisted in the top of a 3 or 4-stories building and
shot from the street, so the description that follows is perhaps not very
accurate. The flag looked 2:3, consisting of two horizontal areas, the top
two-thirds white and the bottom third striped in vertical black and white
stripes. I'm not sure how many stripes, but it I think there were 7 - 4 black
and 3 white (there could have also been 9, though).
Jorge Candeias, 13 January 2002
Seen along the road between Islamabad and Peshawar in January 2003. Like the
Pakistani national flag, but with the white stripe at the hoist narrower and
separated from the hoist by a green stripe of about the same width.
Joe McMillan, 2 February 2003
I wonder if this is a variant of the flag of Jamiat
al Islami or any related organization. The hoist is blue and fly green, but
variants have been described from students, where the hoist was green and fly
blue (always with white band between them) and perhaps there are even more
variations.
Jaume Ollé, 2 February 2003
Seen along the road between Islamabad and Peshawar in January 2003. Black
with four vertical white stripes, possibly just a vertical version of the
JUI flag I posted earlier.
Joe McMillan, 2 February 2003
I have photos of a flag with 5 black vertical bands, but they don't reach the
upper border. They stop before it and in the upper white part is a shahada and
sword (shahada above and sword below). Also there is the flag of
El Jihad Tanzim with three vertical bands at hoist
side. The fly part is white containing a black disk and within a white Arabic
inscription.
Jaume Ollé, 2 February 2003
Seen along the road between Islamabad and Peshawar in January 2003. Black
with white crescent and star and a red stripe at the hoist.
Joe McMillan, 2 February 2003
Might be the PPP flag. Sometimes the dark
green is confused with black in the distance.
Jaume Ollé, 2 February 2003
Seen along the road between Islamabad and Peshawar in January 2003. Red with
a white disk on the center.
Joe McMillan, 2 February 2003
Seen along the road between Islamabad and Peshawar in January 2003. Green
with a white star on the center and a red stripe at the hoist.
Joe McMillan, 2 February 2003