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Matteo Colaone, 6 October 2002
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Minorities in North Italy are:
- Occitani
- Franco-Provenzali (in Piedmont, Valle d'Aosta) - I suppose they
are using the flags of Movimento
Harpytania and the red-black flags of Aosta
- Walser (a germanic people, in Valle d'Aosta,
Piedmont and C.Tessin-CH) - Has an own (very elaborated) flag
- Sudtiroler (AltoAdige/Südtirol)
- Tzimber/Cimbri (Veneto, Trentino)
- Ladins/Ladini (Veneto, Trentino,
Friuli)
- Furlans/Friulani (Friuli)
- Slavi (or Sloveni) (Friuli)
Matteo Colaone, 11 November 2000
Also called "Arbe Risht". They fly the Albanian flag, I guess.
Antonio Martins, 1 August 1999
Arberesh (Italy) - These are ethnical Albanians in Puglia and Basilicata.
They most certainly use the Albanian flag, undefaced, if
anything.
Antonio Martins, 14 September 2000
Local "Catalanists" in Alghero (Sardinia) may use
the "qutre barres", but As far
as I know this town is not claimed as a part of "Greater
Catalonia", just a place where catalonian happend to live.
Antonio Martins, 14 September 2000
Alghero was populated by people from Catalan region named CAMP
(Reus, my city, is the main city) as a position to assure the
control over Sardinia where four Judges (Lords) sometime revolted
against Catalan domination. Ethnic pure catalan was maintened
until XX century. Currently Sardinian and Italian population are
the majory in the city. The concept of Greater Catalonia is out
of the Catalonian views. Some months ago I watched a report in
catalan TV from Algher. Catalan flag is hoisted in the port, in
the fishing ships and in some building from cultural
associations, but catalans in Algher don't have special rights
(school, radio, TV, books...) and in few generations the catalan
will be merged and will cease to exist as seperate community.
Jaume Ollé, 15 September 2000
I wanted to add information about the centuries old Croatian
community that lives in Molise. The live in the province of Campobasso.
They live in three villages and arrived in Italy at the beginning
of the Ottoman conquest of the region. Today they number some
2000. The villages are: Aquaviva Collecroce (Cr. Ziva Voda-Kruc),
Montemitro (Cr. Mundimitar) and San Felice del Molise (Cr.
Filic). The Molise Croatians are recognized as one of Italy's
minority groups and have the right to teach their language see Eurolang.net
for more details.
The arms for these villages can be found at the sites of cquaviva
Aquaviva
Collecroce (Ziva Voda-Kruc), Montemitro
(Mundimitar) and San
Felice del Molise (Filic)
As for using the Croatian flag, I do not know. Both the Republic
of Croatia flag and the Italian flag are shown during a
presentation of the Molise Croatian dictionary. The flag may be
there because the Croatian Embassy was there...see <digilander.libero.it/montemitro/Fondazione.files/diz.montemitro.hr.htm>.
Marko Puljic, 4 Febuary 2001
I e-mailed the webmaster of the Molise Croatian website, and
she confirmed that the Croatians in Italy do not have their own
flag.
Marko Puljic, 6 December 2002
I guess all these are Gypsies (rroma), using the usual gypsy
flag - if any at all
Antonio Martins , 1 August 1999
Italian "Cimbri" have nothing to do with Rom
(Gypsies). This is the self-denomination of little minorities
scattered throughout Northern Italy and coming from Austria or
Southern Bavaria (XII-XIV centuries): the major Cimbre
communities are the ones of the 13 Communes ("13
Comuni") on the mounts over Verona, the 7 Communes ("7
Comuni") in the mpuntains N of Vicenza, and a few villages
in the Provinces of Trento (Luserna), Belluno (Sappada/Ploden),
Udine (Sauris and Timau). Their peculiar dialects - directly
deriving from Middle German are still preserved in some of the
villages.
Though there are general conventions of all the Cimbri, I
don't know of any flag common to all of them. They use the flags
of their single villages or confederations of communes (Verona
and Vicenza). The name "Cimbri" has nothing to do with
the Cimbri and Theutones defeated by Marius in North Germany in
the first Century BC. It is, on the contrary, to be tied with
modern German Zimmer (room < hut made of wood) or with English
Timber (wood for construction). These Germanic peoples were
called to Italy because they were good wood-cutters and
carpenters and especially because they knew how to obtain coal
from wood and therefore how to get the high temperatures that
were needed for smelting metals. As a consequence when a North
Italian Lord wanted to open a mine almost always called Cimbri
settlers.
Alberto M. Mioni, 13 April 2000
They call themselves Tzimbar, and they speak a Germanic
language called "Tauch". The modern version of the
origin of this mysterious people could be this: in 1287
Bartolomeo della Scala, bishop of Verona asked some families of
woodcutter, "tzimberer" in german, to work in a wide
forest, Lessinia. So They settled in this area, the
so-called "die Dreizehn Gemeinden/Tredici Comuni". The
names of the "thirteen communes" are (tauch and italian
names):
1- Kalwein (it: Badia Calavena)
2- Nuagankirchen (it: Bosco Chiesanuova)
3- Silva Hermanorum (it: Cerro Veronese)
4- ? (it: Erbezzo)
5- ? (it: Rover?)
6- San Moritz (it: San Mauro delle Saline)
7- Prugne and Ljetzan (it: Selva di Progno)
8- Vellje-Feld (it: Velo Veronese).
The last 5 are no more indipendent communes, but the italian
administration included them in the previous ones. They are:
9- Kampsilvan
10- San Bortolo
11- Tavernole
12- Porrental
13- Azzarino.
All in Verona province, Veneto region.
Tzimbar also live in the area of "Die Sieben Gemeinden/Sette
Comuni" in Vicenza province, Veneto region. The seven
communes should be:
1- Schlage (it: Asiago) - now a beautiful touristic village -
2- ? (it: Gallio)
3- Robaan (it: Roana)
4- Canove (?)
5- Vallorch (?)
6- Pich (?)
7- Pian Osteria (?)
Other little Tzimber "islands" in North italy in the
previous comment.
Tzimber don't use any national flag; but Selva di Progno (VR) has
an interesting CoA: every star
stand for one of the 13 communes. In Asiago CoA 7 human heads stand
for the 7 communes; the cross is the so-called "Schio
cross". It seems that yellow and red are the colours of
Asiago; I saw a flag Y-R (divided vertically?) in that city in
december 1999.
Tzimber have really nothing to do with Gypsies or Rom peoples!
Matteo Colaone, 11 November 2000
I recieved information that there is a Flag of the Seven
Cimbri Comunes, and flag of the historical territorial milizia of
the Seven Comunes.
Jaume Ollé, 25 November 2001
See: Friuli - Venezia Giulia Region
Occitani (in Piedmont) use the Occitania flag (with yellow
Toulose cross on red) and white flag with a red Sun of the Alps
(the same used by Padanian autonomist).
Matteo Colaone, 11 November 2000
Slovenes are present in the eastern part of the region of
Friuli Venezia Giulia along the Italian-Slovenian
border, mostly in and around cities of Trieste (Trst),
Gorizia (Gorica) and Tarvisio (Trbiž). There are some
ten thousand Slovenes. They are native inhabitants of the
region. As far as it is known to me, they don't use any common
flag or coat of arms to represent themselves, except of course
signs of many cultural and economic societies they are organised
within.
Uroš Herman, 7 October 2004
Matteo Colaone, 6 October 2002
Matteo Colaone, 6 October 2002
Walser people is an important german-speaking
minority (Walser Gemeinschaft) in Piemonte and Valle d'Aosta
regions. Nowadays they live in these towns In
Verbania-Cusio-Ossola province:
Pomatt/Formazza, Z'Makána/Macugnaga. In Vercelli province:
Im Land/Alagna, Fubely/Fobello, Rémmalyu/Rimella,
Rimŕsk/Rimasco. In Aosta province: Greschňney
Oberteil/Gressoney-la-Trinité; Greschňney Onderteil ňn
Méttelteil/Gressoney-Saint-Jean, Eischeme/Issime; Walser also
live in Canton Ticino (CH) in Bosco Gurin village.
FLAGS:
Above - flag of Walser communities, adopted in 1815, it reminds
Canton Vallese (CH) flag, as Walser people comes from that
land. White and red stand for "Legione
Tebana"'s martyrs that died in Martigny in 287 d.C.;
the ten stars stand for the number of communities in
the valley (nine in Piemonte and Valle d'Aosta and one in
Canton Ticino).
Below - flag used by Aosta province Walser communities. The
hearth-shaped emblem represents the flag of Walser communities;
the other symbol is called Winkelkreutz
("cornercross"), used by Gressoney's merchants in '600,
and it reminds Odin-Wotan's rune (Odin was the protector of
merchants). Palm leaves simbolize the Legione Tebana. Black and
red in the borders are the well-known Valle d'Aosta colours.
Matteo Colaone, 6 October 2002