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The emblem of Lancashire is the red rose, in contrast to the white rose of
Yorkshire. However, this emblem does not seem to
have been used on a flag. The red rose was originally a symbol of
Lancaster, and seems to have been invented by Henry VII. He however used
the combined "Tudor Rose", so the red rose alone would never have been used.
Nathan Lamm, 9 September 2002
There is also a Lancaster Herald whose
badge is a red rose royally crowned - see www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/about/6.htm
Joe McMillan, 20 February 2002
There is indeed a Lancashire flag: a red rose on a white background. It can
be seen flying from some businesses (e.g. the Lancashire House Hotel, where I
stay when I'm visiting Lancaster University), and can be purchased from a number
of flag vendors online. I'm told by several locals that it flies from Preston
County Hall, but I haven't yet confirmed this myself; eventually I'll try to get
a photo which will confirm semi-official status.
James Sterbenz, 11 February 2006
There is, apparently, an official
flag for Lancashire, but am reasonably certain that the one described above is
not it. I have no background so cannot confirm that this is the design, but the
one of which I am aware consists of three gold triangles (two upright and one
reversed) on a red field, with three red roses one in the centre of each
triangle. I have the definite feeling that the red rose on white described by
James is actually a commercial venture, and despite what he was told the only
flag I have ever seen flying from the County Hall in Preston is the Union Jack?
Christopher Southworth, 11 February 2006
This flag as described by
Christopher would be a banner of arms of Lancashire County Council.
Laurence Jones, 12 February 2006
Carr, 1961, says "Liverpool's arms date
from 1797, when the heralds, having never heard of Litherland close by, were
left to choose between the pool of laver - that is, the seaweed Porphyra - and
the pool of the liver, a bird unknown to naturalists; and, failing to find a
figure of the imaginary bird, they invented a sort of short-necked cormorant,
into whose beak they put a couple of fronds of Porphyra in case it was Liverpool
after all. This very neat instance of heraldic hedging did not, however, meet
with the success it deserved, for the old name was discovered to be Litherpool -
that is, the sluggish pool - yet the cormorant and the seaweed remain, for they
are in the grant."
Carr therefore suggests that cities may use banners of arms.
Jarig Bakker, 2 April 2002
It is a cormorant on the arms of Liverpool. It was inspired by an American
flag with a bald eagle on it, and developed with a hint of the famous Liverpool
humour. The "liver birds" are Oliver and Olivia - she looking out to sea waiting
for her true love to return, he looking into the city to see if the pubs are
open!
Valerie Sullivan, 16 June 2004
The late Fritz Spiegl, who was an
authority on all things Liverpudlian (and who wrote a four volume series
entitled 'Lern Yersel Scouse' under the pseudonym Linacre Lane), claimed that
the Liver Bird was based on a pelican, the local artist who was commissioned to
draw the bird (a) had never seen one and (b) was drunk at the time.
Ron Lahav, 18 April 2005
Concerning the Liverbird, I can't believe
people think the Liverbird is a cormorant. I felt the need, being from Liverpool
myself and being very proud of my city, to set the record straight. The original
seal of Liverpool was based on the heraldic emblem of King John, which was an
eagle. The original seal was broken some time during Liverpool's history and
when the new seal was created the artist couldn't quite render the eagle as well
as the original, so it came to look something like a cormorant.
Neil Evans, 7 May 2006
See also:
The special ensign of the Royal Mersey Yacht Club. Founded Birkenhead 1844.
Title 'Royal' granted 23 September 1844. Admiralty Warrant for special ensign
granted 24 September 1844. Original badge was just the Liver bird; crown added
between 1869 and 1875.
David Prothero, 8 Octiber 2002
Source: Port Cities
On the Port Cities web site
(search for "Flag") are also many proposals for a Mersey Docks and Harbour Board
house flag. The flag is from the Merseyside Maritime Museum.
Jan Mertens, 11 February 2005
Mersey Docks and Harbour Board has long since been privatized and has a
different name now, but I don't know if it has a new flag as well.
Ron Lahav, 12 February 2005